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		<title>By: Yves Tissier (France)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yves Tissier (France)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 20:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Kiwa, I lately discovered your answer. I&#039;ve put it on my blog Urticamania, translated in french.

May be you know François Couplan. He his an ethnobotanist, well knowed in France, has published about 30 books and loves nettles. As I asked his point of view on this subject, he replied this :

&quot;Personally, I don&#039;t use nettle as &quot;medicinal plant&quot;, but as food for body and mind, reminding the words of Hippocrates &quot;Be your food your medicine&quot;.
&quot;Nettle shows &quot;balancing&quot; properties, more than &quot;refreshing&quot; or &quot;heating&quot;, which is not the lower of its virtues. Indeed, it brings to the body all the elements that it needs, without influencing it by the presence of an aromatic oil, nor by showing itself too waterry&quot;.
&quot;What does concern its use in northern or southern countries, the simple explanation is that stinging nettle, Urtica dioïca, rare in mediterranean countries, is all together the best, easier useful and more frequent than the various mediterranean species, U.atrovirens, menbranacea, pilulifera etc&quot;.

Excuse me for the poor quality of the translation.
I hope that this will improve your opinion about nettles.

Sincerely

Yves</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Kiwa, I lately discovered your answer. I&#8217;ve put it on my blog Urticamania, translated in french.</p>
<p>May be you know François Couplan. He his an ethnobotanist, well knowed in France, has published about 30 books and loves nettles. As I asked his point of view on this subject, he replied this :</p>
<p>&#8220;Personally, I don&#8217;t use nettle as &#8220;medicinal plant&#8221;, but as food for body and mind, reminding the words of Hippocrates &#8220;Be your food your medicine&#8221;.<br />
&#8220;Nettle shows &#8220;balancing&#8221; properties, more than &#8220;refreshing&#8221; or &#8220;heating&#8221;, which is not the lower of its virtues. Indeed, it brings to the body all the elements that it needs, without influencing it by the presence of an aromatic oil, nor by showing itself too waterry&#8221;.<br />
&#8220;What does concern its use in northern or southern countries, the simple explanation is that stinging nettle, Urtica dioïca, rare in mediterranean countries, is all together the best, easier useful and more frequent than the various mediterranean species, U.atrovirens, menbranacea, pilulifera etc&#8221;.</p>
<p>Excuse me for the poor quality of the translation.<br />
I hope that this will improve your opinion about nettles.</p>
<p>Sincerely</p>
<p>Yves</p>
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		<title>By: Yves Tissier (France)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yves Tissier (France)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 09:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks. I will translate your answer on my blog.
Fot now, after nettles, I&#039;ve written a new book about vegetarianism, inspired by the Mahatma Gandhi. I intend to put the full text (in french) on free download on the web. It should be also an english version and may be in spanish. This should be ready at the end of the year.
Kind regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks. I will translate your answer on my blog.<br />
Fot now, after nettles, I&#8217;ve written a new book about vegetarianism, inspired by the Mahatma Gandhi. I intend to put the full text (in french) on free download on the web. It should be also an english version and may be in spanish. This should be ready at the end of the year.<br />
Kind regards</p>
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		<title>By: Kiva Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kiva Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 16:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Yves,

Yes, energetically, I think Nettle leaf is cooling (although Culpeper and some Galenic influenced herbalists have sometimes classified it as hot, mostly due to its sting I believe), rather inherent to it&#039;s mineral-rich nature. Many traditional wild greens are cooling, really, and are traditional &quot;blood cleansers&quot; or alteratives for use in spring after a long winter with little fresh food. People in Northern Europe use lots of cooling medicines/foods, and I would imagine that due to the short growing season, they gathered and used whatever was prolific and available. There&#039;s lots of warming plants in southern Europe as well, that are used quite often.... Thyme and Rosemary are both certainly warming, but frequently used in warm climates as medicine and food... more importantly, they&#039;re diffusive diaphoretics which helps keep circulation moving and assists the body in self-regulating temperature, just as with Cayenne. Likewise, while Nettle is cooling, it is also nourishing and building, very important for long winters.

Thanks for the article, wish I could read French!

Best,
Kiva</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Yves,</p>
<p>Yes, energetically, I think Nettle leaf is cooling (although Culpeper and some Galenic influenced herbalists have sometimes classified it as hot, mostly due to its sting I believe), rather inherent to it&#8217;s mineral-rich nature. Many traditional wild greens are cooling, really, and are traditional &#8220;blood cleansers&#8221; or alteratives for use in spring after a long winter with little fresh food. People in Northern Europe use lots of cooling medicines/foods, and I would imagine that due to the short growing season, they gathered and used whatever was prolific and available. There&#8217;s lots of warming plants in southern Europe as well, that are used quite often&#8230;. Thyme and Rosemary are both certainly warming, but frequently used in warm climates as medicine and food&#8230; more importantly, they&#8217;re diffusive diaphoretics which helps keep circulation moving and assists the body in self-regulating temperature, just as with Cayenne. Likewise, while Nettle is cooling, it is also nourishing and building, very important for long winters.</p>
<p>Thanks for the article, wish I could read French!</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Kiva</p>
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		<title>By: Yves Tissier (France)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yves Tissier (France)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 16:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Kiva,
You wrote : &quot;the (nettle) seed is far less cooling and drying&quot; (than the leaf). Do you really think that the nettle leaf is cooling ? How then do you explain that the stinging nettle was traditionnaly used as food and healing plant in North-Europa, and less in the South ?
Kind regards
Yves
http://Urticamania.over-blog.com
P.S. I&#039;ve made an article (in french) about your position on nettle seed on my blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Kiva,<br />
You wrote : &#8220;the (nettle) seed is far less cooling and drying&#8221; (than the leaf). Do you really think that the nettle leaf is cooling ? How then do you explain that the stinging nettle was traditionnaly used as food and healing plant in North-Europa, and less in the South ?<br />
Kind regards<br />
Yves<br />
<a href="http://Urticamania.over-blog.com" rel="nofollow">http://Urticamania.over-blog.com</a><br />
P.S. I&#8217;ve made an article (in french) about your position on nettle seed on my blog.</p>
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		<title>By: celia</title>
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		<dc:creator>celia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 03:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i can&#039;t stop staring at your nettle photos. the brighter green in the center/veins is to die for, and i&#039;ve never seen nettle with such vibrant coloring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i can&#8217;t stop staring at your nettle photos. the brighter green in the center/veins is to die for, and i&#8217;ve never seen nettle with such vibrant coloring.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 19:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kiva: Do you also avoid _eating_ nettles when in flower/seed? I&#039;ve eaten them (well cooked) and they don&#039;t seem to cause a problem, but I don&#039;t use them for medicine making at that time.

For &quot;Lemon&quot; who was concerned about look-alikes, there is a common weed in the deep south called &quot;nettles&quot; -- can&#039;t tell you how many people tell me they are eating and making infusions with this plant! Heh. It&#039;s not toxic, but it&#039;s also not particularly beneficial and it does sting. The lovely little star-shaped flower is the giveaway that you have &quot;spurge nettle&quot; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spurge_nettle. 

You won&#039;t see true (European) nettles growing wild in the deep south, but we do have the closely related Urtica chamaedryoides, which can be used just like U.dioica. But this plant is so small, it&#039;s hard to collect enough or to even SEE the seeds! Better to just start growing your own patch of U.dioica if you can.

Green blessings all, Florida Susan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kiva: Do you also avoid _eating_ nettles when in flower/seed? I&#8217;ve eaten them (well cooked) and they don&#8217;t seem to cause a problem, but I don&#8217;t use them for medicine making at that time.</p>
<p>For &#8220;Lemon&#8221; who was concerned about look-alikes, there is a common weed in the deep south called &#8220;nettles&#8221; &#8212; can&#8217;t tell you how many people tell me they are eating and making infusions with this plant! Heh. It&#8217;s not toxic, but it&#8217;s also not particularly beneficial and it does sting. The lovely little star-shaped flower is the giveaway that you have &#8220;spurge nettle&#8221; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spurge_nettle" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spurge_nettle</a>. </p>
<p>You won&#8217;t see true (European) nettles growing wild in the deep south, but we do have the closely related Urtica chamaedryoides, which can be used just like U.dioica. But this plant is so small, it&#8217;s hard to collect enough or to even SEE the seeds! Better to just start growing your own patch of U.dioica if you can.</p>
<p>Green blessings all, Florida Susan</p>
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		<title>By: Hedgerow Hippy &#183; First Harvests</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hedgerow Hippy &#183; First Harvests</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at all. So they’re all in vodka now too. I’ve never used nettle seeds before but Kiva Rose is a big fan and I’m looking forward to getting to know another aspect of this amazing plant.  The Bilberry [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] at all. So they’re all in vodka now too. I’ve never used nettle seeds before but Kiva Rose is a big fan and I’m looking forward to getting to know another aspect of this amazing plant.  The Bilberry [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kiva Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kiva Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 01:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kristina,

Having never met Laportea, I haven&#039;t the slightest idea. I suggest asking on the Herbwifery forum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kristina,</p>
<p>Having never met Laportea, I haven&#8217;t the slightest idea. I suggest asking on the Herbwifery forum.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristina Bentley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristina Bentley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 01:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE NETTLE...

From everything I have read Urtica dioica and Laportea canadensis leaves and roots can be used in the same ways. Can the seeds as well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE NETTLE&#8230;</p>
<p>From everything I have read Urtica dioica and Laportea canadensis leaves and roots can be used in the same ways. Can the seeds as well?</p>
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		<title>By: Kiva Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kiva Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 01:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lemon... Yes, there are some plants that superficially resemble Urtica, but if you&#039;re paying attention you should be able to figure it out. They have square stems, are fibrous when older and certainly I&#039;ve never seen any lookalikes that have a flowers and seeds anything at all like Urtica so it&#039;s easiest to ID them during summer. Also, most lookalikes don&#039;t actually sting like Nettles, with those little silica needles full of formic acid.

For propogation purposes, yes, I would think the brown seeds would be quite adequate. Male from female before flowering or during? 

You&#039;re very welcome, thank you for reading!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lemon&#8230; Yes, there are some plants that superficially resemble Urtica, but if you&#8217;re paying attention you should be able to figure it out. They have square stems, are fibrous when older and certainly I&#8217;ve never seen any lookalikes that have a flowers and seeds anything at all like Urtica so it&#8217;s easiest to ID them during summer. Also, most lookalikes don&#8217;t actually sting like Nettles, with those little silica needles full of formic acid.</p>
<p>For propogation purposes, yes, I would think the brown seeds would be quite adequate. Male from female before flowering or during? </p>
<p>You&#8217;re very welcome, thank you for reading!</p>
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		<title>By: Lemon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lemon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 01:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kiva, I was looking up rewilding and found your blog, this is perfect timing...I wonder if you could tell me, and forgive my complete ignorance on the subject, but are there any plants  in eastern North America that can be commonly confused with nettle? 
And for propagating the seeds, you would harvest them when brown right?  And is there a simple way to tell the male plants from the females?

Any help would be appreciated, I rely quite a bit on store-bought tea for adrenal support but would prefer to pick or cultivate it myself.

Thanks so much for sharing!

Lemon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kiva, I was looking up rewilding and found your blog, this is perfect timing&#8230;I wonder if you could tell me, and forgive my complete ignorance on the subject, but are there any plants  in eastern North America that can be commonly confused with nettle?<br />
And for propagating the seeds, you would harvest them when brown right?  And is there a simple way to tell the male plants from the females?</p>
<p>Any help would be appreciated, I rely quite a bit on store-bought tea for adrenal support but would prefer to pick or cultivate it myself.</p>
<p>Thanks so much for sharing!</p>
<p>Lemon</p>
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		<title>By: Kiva Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kiva Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 17:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So glad you enjoy the blog, Jacqueline! Truthfully, I have no idea, I&#039;ve never used the brown seeds at all. I have heard reports though, of the brown seeds being irritating from some people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So glad you enjoy the blog, Jacqueline! Truthfully, I have no idea, I&#8217;ve never used the brown seeds at all. I have heard reports though, of the brown seeds being irritating from some people.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacqueline Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacqueline Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 17:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a part of the herbwifery forum and frequent your blog. Your writing is really inspiring. I recently made nettle seed tincture but didn&#039;t realize the seeds have to be green, not brown. Is the tincture I made completely unusable? 
Thanks again for all your wisdom!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a part of the herbwifery forum and frequent your blog. Your writing is really inspiring. I recently made nettle seed tincture but didn&#8217;t realize the seeds have to be green, not brown. Is the tincture I made completely unusable?<br />
Thanks again for all your wisdom!</p>
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		<title>By: Kiva Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kiva Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 03:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kristina,

The leaves are generally regarded as a potential kidney irritant after they flower, so no, I do not use them medicinally at that time. 

Usually though, post-seeding, when the weather cools down a bit, the nettles will send new green shoots up perfect for medicine or food. This is more likely if you keep a patch trimmed. So I usually get two eating seasons each year, one in the spring and one in fall. It will probably vary from place to place.

You&#039;re very welcome, thanks so much for reading!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kristina,</p>
<p>The leaves are generally regarded as a potential kidney irritant after they flower, so no, I do not use them medicinally at that time. </p>
<p>Usually though, post-seeding, when the weather cools down a bit, the nettles will send new green shoots up perfect for medicine or food. This is more likely if you keep a patch trimmed. So I usually get two eating seasons each year, one in the spring and one in fall. It will probably vary from place to place.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re very welcome, thanks so much for reading!</p>
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		<title>By: Kristina Bentley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristina Bentley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am wondering if the leaves are still as potent medicinally when gone to seed.  I feel like I should harvest some leaves while I am collecting the seeds.  Do you eat the leaves all through the season or only in the spring??

Thank you Kiva for your abundant wisdom and willingness to share!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am wondering if the leaves are still as potent medicinally when gone to seed.  I feel like I should harvest some leaves while I am collecting the seeds.  Do you eat the leaves all through the season or only in the spring??</p>
<p>Thank you Kiva for your abundant wisdom and willingness to share!</p>
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